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Did you guys see the layer-manager of the new Cinema 4D R10?
It has by far the best layer-manager out there. I would love to see only the half of the features of their layer-manager implemented in blender.
Take a look a this:
http://www.c4dcafe.com/reviews/r10/images/layerbrowser.jpg
http://www.c4dcafe.com/reviews/r10/layers.php
What do you think?
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smokebox46and2 wrote on the 10 Apr 08 at 21:50
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a developer named Digimator is currently working on layer management features. don't know what comparison there is between this and the features in C4D.
http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/User:Digimator
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Kirado wrote on the 11 Apr 08 at 14:25
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the layers in max aren't bad either.. have seen the cinema 4d ones yet. I mean essentially it's like another tree view. Nice to know someone is working on it.
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Gustav Göransson wrote on the 11 Apr 08 at 20:22
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I've made a couple of mockups some time ago, that shows how a layer manger could be integrated within the outliner:
http://gustavgoransson.com/temp/outliner_mockup1.jpg
http://gustavgoransson.com/temp/outliner_mockup2.jpg
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smokebox46and2 wrote on the 12 Apr 08 at 15:27
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i like your idea, Gustav. it reminds me a little of 3ds max's layers, yet more accessible. i really like the idea of having it integrated or paneled with the outliner... very logical.
good thinkin'!
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DanMan wrote on the 12 Apr 08 at 18:23
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Yes, nice one Gustav. Go make a request and i'll vote for it. :)
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Toni Grappa wrote on the 14 Apr 08 at 13:58
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This layer "issue" is not easy to solve and needs some fundamental "think over"
http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2008-January/019976.html
and especially here
http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-committers/2007-December/019927.html
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Cessen wrote on the 20 May 08 at 06:33
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I'm really not convinced that the concept of "layers" is really the best way to organize things in a 3D application. It seems like Blender's group system would be a better thing to use (and expand) for that purpose.
It would be nice to see a really well-thought-out design for a dedicated group-manager UI.
And groups could very logically be expanded to take on the organizational roles that layers are currently used for, but would be more flexible in many ways. Especially if boolean operations could be used (i.e. you could make lights only affect objects who were both in the "window" and "building 1" groups, to logically specify all windows in building 1).
IMO the only place in Blender were the term "layer" really makes sense is the render layers.
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jin choung wrote on the 24 May 08 at 11:17
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layers are ANOTHER "LAYER" of organization. if you have groups but still need more control over what is visible or accessible, layers can be useful.
but it would be awesome if blender's layers can at least have names. i'm going over the mancandy videos right now and it would be just so much easier if i could see that the second layer was HEAD CTRLS (or whatever) instead of almost having to memorize it.
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smokebox46and2 wrote on the 11 Jun 08 at 19:17
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groups/layers : tomato/tomato
call it whatever you want, blender just needs better object organization.
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Layerhater wrote on the 18 Jun 08 at 13:24
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WHO NEEDS LAYER MANAGEMENT?
I mean, REALLY! How UNORGANIZED a bunch are Blender users?
A REAL Blender user remembers ALL his layers and ALL object layers OFF HAND and this layer manager crap is just USELESS CLUTTER!
People who request a layer manager are just FULL OF SHIT and HOT AIR!
Get ORGANIZED PEOPLE! It can't be that hard to merely remember 20 numbers!
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